invade iraq, you can run off with the oil remnants. you invade afghanistan, you just pull money in. a huge economic hole in the budget and the kind of low-level insurgency which afghans so brilliant at. just a slow attrition of foreign forces and one throws up their hands and says, well, it's just not worth it. >> in the middle of it, hamid karzai, the man we backed for president. one thing i noticed in your book, the man who the british put in place, their karzai, if you will, was so reviled within the country as a kind of foreign puppet that for decades and decades and for centuries in 2001 you would hear afghans say, make sure, you are not a western puppet who has no support domestically. >> in a sense, the main reason for writing this book is that president karzai, amazingly, is the chief of the same tribe. in other words, the west has put the same guy on twice.